Comments on: John Mark McMillan discusses David Crowder and “Sloppy Wet Kiss” http://www.ourrisingsound.com/2009/09/14/john-mark-mcmillan-discusses-david-crowder-and-sloppy-wet-kiss/ Where music, culture and worship meet. Wed, 08 Feb 2012 01:30:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Kyle Campos http://www.ourrisingsound.com/2009/09/14/john-mark-mcmillan-discusses-david-crowder-and-sloppy-wet-kiss/comment-page-1/#comment-126248 Kyle Campos Mon, 24 Oct 2011 05:43:04 +0000 http://www.ourrisingsound.com/?p=1473#comment-126248 "Bringing God down to a human, fleshy level" you used that as a pejorative. Ummm that's the marvel of the incarnation! Praise God he lowered himself and became flesh, otherwise we are dead men walking.Sent from my iPad “Bringing God down to a human, fleshy level” you used that as a pejorative. Ummm that's the marvel of the incarnation! Praise God he lowered himself and became flesh, otherwise we are dead men walking.Sent from my iPad

]]> By: Jordan http://www.ourrisingsound.com/2009/09/14/john-mark-mcmillan-discusses-david-crowder-and-sloppy-wet-kiss/comment-page-1/#comment-126235 Jordan Mon, 24 Oct 2011 03:52:16 +0000 http://www.ourrisingsound.com/?p=1473#comment-126235 I completely agree with the person named Beth a few comments ago. You can say that Jesus' death was messy, but sloppy is the wrong word. Calling anything that heaven does a "sloppy wet kiss" sounds like you are bringing God down to a human, fleshy level. I still enjoy the song and worship God with it at church, and I don't care if anyone thinks the lyrics are great. But don't try to belittle those with a better appreciation for the David Crowder version. Some people are just trying to keep their minds pure as they worship God without having to picture a sloppy wet kiss. I completely agree with the person named Beth a few comments ago. You can say that Jesus' death was messy, but sloppy is the wrong word. Calling anything that heaven does a "sloppy wet kiss" sounds like you are bringing God down to a human, fleshy level. I still enjoy the song and worship God with it at church, and I don't care if anyone thinks the lyrics are great. But don't try to belittle those with a better appreciation for the David Crowder version. Some people are just trying to keep their minds pure as they worship God without having to picture a sloppy wet kiss.

]]> By: mattpbrock http://www.ourrisingsound.com/2009/09/14/john-mark-mcmillan-discusses-david-crowder-and-sloppy-wet-kiss/comment-page-1/#comment-92042 mattpbrock Wed, 31 Aug 2011 01:51:21 +0000 http://www.ourrisingsound.com/?p=1473#comment-92042 We sing the original line in our services. Mostly because I love the lyric and the massive, beautiful thought it so succinctly conveys. All the talk about errant theology is a little funny to me, especially with John's clarification. It's perfectly sound. Orthodox, even. But who doesn't love a good scandal? My recent post <a href="http://legograffiti.wordpress.com/2011/08/29/4-thoughts-on-observation-and-participation-in-worship/" rel="nofollow">4 Thoughts On Observation And Participation In Worship</a> We sing the original line in our services. Mostly because I love the lyric and the massive, beautiful thought it so succinctly conveys. All the talk about errant theology is a little funny to me, especially with John's clarification. It's perfectly sound. Orthodox, even.

But who doesn't love a good scandal?
My recent post 4 Thoughts On Observation And Participation In Worship

]]> By: RadicalLam@aol.com http://www.ourrisingsound.com/2009/09/14/john-mark-mcmillan-discusses-david-crowder-and-sloppy-wet-kiss/comment-page-1/#comment-74759 RadicalLam@aol.com Tue, 12 Jul 2011 17:42:42 +0000 http://www.ourrisingsound.com/?p=1473#comment-74759 No, the song is about "Oh how He loves us" so it IS about Him kissing us and He loves us as a man loves his bride but the relationship is more like us bowing and adoring a King for saving us from death, not spiritual intercourse on the honeymoon. People are watching too many fairy tales instead of reading the Word of God. No, the song is about "Oh how He loves us" so it IS about Him kissing us and He loves us as a man loves his bride but the relationship is more like us bowing and adoring a King for saving us from death, not spiritual intercourse on the honeymoon. People are watching too many fairy tales instead of reading the Word of God.

]]> By: RadicalLamb http://www.ourrisingsound.com/2009/09/14/john-mark-mcmillan-discusses-david-crowder-and-sloppy-wet-kiss/comment-page-1/#comment-74757 RadicalLamb Tue, 12 Jul 2011 17:36:34 +0000 http://www.ourrisingsound.com/?p=1473#comment-74757 Numbers don't mean anything to God. Making a few good disciples is what pleases Him. And are people being brought to a deeper worship or a more soulish worship...... worship that stirs the senses. Are young people learning to worship Him in spirit and in truth? Numbers don't mean anything to God. Making a few good disciples is what pleases Him. And are people being brought to a deeper worship or a more soulish worship…… worship that stirs the senses. Are young people learning to worship Him in spirit and in truth?

]]> By: RadicalLamb http://www.ourrisingsound.com/2009/09/14/john-mark-mcmillan-discusses-david-crowder-and-sloppy-wet-kiss/comment-page-1/#comment-74755 RadicalLamb Tue, 12 Jul 2011 17:23:34 +0000 http://www.ourrisingsound.com/?p=1473#comment-74755 When kissed by my earthly father as a little girl, if it was a sloppy wet kiss he should have been arrested and thrown in jail for incest. Our Heavenly Father is higher and purer than today's fleshly, soulish religious people can fathom. This generation has been watching too much television or too many X rated movies. People have been desensitized and need more and more to get a thrill these days. Don't drag my Lord Jesus into that. He is holy. Yes He loves us and he displayed that love by dying, not by erotic love making. When kissed by my earthly father as a little girl, if it was a sloppy wet kiss he should have been arrested and thrown in jail for incest. Our Heavenly Father is higher and purer than today's fleshly, soulish religious people can fathom. This generation has been watching too much television or too many X rated movies. People have been desensitized and need more and more to get a thrill these days. Don't drag my Lord Jesus into that. He is holy. Yes He loves us and he displayed that love by dying, not by erotic love making.

]]> By: Kent http://www.ourrisingsound.com/2009/09/14/john-mark-mcmillan-discusses-david-crowder-and-sloppy-wet-kiss/comment-page-1/#comment-64651 Kent Mon, 06 Jun 2011 18:48:37 +0000 http://www.ourrisingsound.com/?p=1473#comment-64651 Should we be more intimate with the Lord than with our spouse, or less intimate? If this lyric conjures up "dirty" thoughts, maybe a sloppy wet kiss for you is more about sex than it is about love. Both were gifts from God, and both can be beautiful. Lust, however, which seems to be what a lot of people think of when they hear this lyric, isn't and cannot be beautiful. Perspective is everything. For example, in Kenya, exposed breasts aren't 'sexual' because that is the norm. If it offends you, maybe examine your perspective before stating that it is "wrong" or "ungodly". Should we be more intimate with the Lord than with our spouse, or less intimate? If this lyric conjures up "dirty" thoughts, maybe a sloppy wet kiss for you is more about sex than it is about love. Both were gifts from God, and both can be beautiful. Lust, however, which seems to be what a lot of people think of when they hear this lyric, isn't and cannot be beautiful. Perspective is everything. For example, in Kenya, exposed breasts aren't 'sexual' because that is the norm. If it offends you, maybe examine your perspective before stating that it is "wrong" or "ungodly".

]]> By: Daniel Burgess http://www.ourrisingsound.com/2009/09/14/john-mark-mcmillan-discusses-david-crowder-and-sloppy-wet-kiss/comment-page-1/#comment-61696 Daniel Burgess Wed, 25 May 2011 23:53:51 +0000 http://www.ourrisingsound.com/?p=1473#comment-61696 This is a really late comment but personally I love the original version and the Kim Walker version. I couldn't believe when the lyric was changed by David Crowder. I thought the song lost much of what I loved about it. The mere fact that it is such a raw lyric, goes with the whole theme of the song being a reckless abandon love song to Jesus. To hear John Mark McMillan explain at the Nashville Call about writing it in the aftermath of his bestfriend dying brought tears to my eyes. It's a powerful song either way, but I love the original much more. This is a really late comment but personally I love the original version and the Kim Walker version. I couldn't believe when the lyric was changed by David Crowder. I thought the song lost much of what I loved about it. The mere fact that it is such a raw lyric, goes with the whole theme of the song being a reckless abandon love song to Jesus. To hear John Mark McMillan explain at the Nashville Call about writing it in the aftermath of his bestfriend dying brought tears to my eyes. It's a powerful song either way, but I love the original much more.

]]> By: Bryce http://www.ourrisingsound.com/2009/09/14/john-mark-mcmillan-discusses-david-crowder-and-sloppy-wet-kiss/comment-page-1/#comment-58481 Bryce Tue, 10 May 2011 23:23:25 +0000 http://www.ourrisingsound.com/?p=1473#comment-58481 Which is why Jesus toned down his message to avoid being taken out of context and eventually killed by people who misunderstood him, leaving us a boring example of how we are to live tame lives that appease religious people. I think the religion in myself is the most annoying and inhibiting foe i have ever come up against. The song was never written to be a corporate worship song. so singing it as one is already out of context. However using this song out of context has led to some incredible encounters with God for countless people. The song does not say, "God the father lays a sloppy wet kiss on your lips and slips you the tongue". It's a metaphor. I mean come on. We LOVE the Psalms but only the tame parts. We never sing the parts where David cry for God to destroy his enemies and gets brutally violent at times in his recommendation about how God should go about it. Few songs that we sing corporately come to close to that kind of honest expression. I think JM gets close with "How He Loves Us". It's not a song meant to "glorify God". It is a song meant to give us a picture of who He is. A glimpse of His great love for us. If we don't have that picture clear then we cannot truly worship, because our love for Him is birthed out his love for us. So we don't get His love, we struggle to give Him our love. Which is why Jesus toned down his message to avoid being taken out of context and eventually killed by people who misunderstood him, leaving us a boring example of how we are to live tame lives that appease religious people.

I think the religion in myself is the most annoying and inhibiting foe i have ever come up against.

The song was never written to be a corporate worship song. so singing it as one is already out of context. However using this song out of context has led to some incredible encounters with God for countless people.

The song does not say, "God the father lays a sloppy wet kiss on your lips and slips you the tongue". It's a metaphor. I mean come on. We LOVE the Psalms but only the tame parts. We never sing the parts where David cry for God to destroy his enemies and gets brutally violent at times in his recommendation about how God should go about it.

Few songs that we sing corporately come to close to that kind of honest expression. I think JM gets close with "How He Loves Us".

It's not a song meant to "glorify God". It is a song meant to give us a picture of who He is. A glimpse of His great love for us.

If we don't have that picture clear then we cannot truly worship, because our love for Him is birthed out his love for us. So we don't get His love, we struggle to give Him our love.

]]> By: laban24 http://www.ourrisingsound.com/2009/09/14/john-mark-mcmillan-discusses-david-crowder-and-sloppy-wet-kiss/comment-page-1/#comment-51025 laban24 Wed, 20 Apr 2011 03:53:15 +0000 http://www.ourrisingsound.com/?p=1473#comment-51025 JMM, rather. JMM, rather.

]]> By: laban24 http://www.ourrisingsound.com/2009/09/14/john-mark-mcmillan-discusses-david-crowder-and-sloppy-wet-kiss/comment-page-1/#comment-51024 laban24 Wed, 20 Apr 2011 03:52:16 +0000 http://www.ourrisingsound.com/?p=1473#comment-51024 Actually, in the south (where JJM is from), a sloppy wet kiss is the kind that your parent or grandparent gives you. No eros involved in this kind of kiss at all. Yuck. Who would want a sloppy wet eros kind of kiss anyway? No, this is like a grandparent kissing all over your cheeks when they see you after a long absence. It implies unabashed, uninhibited affection like you would give a child. People will even say when talking to family, "Give so and so a sloppy wet kiss from me." So, maybe its a cultural thing. Actually, in the south (where JJM is from), a sloppy wet kiss is the kind that your parent or grandparent gives you. No eros involved in this kind of kiss at all. Yuck. Who would want a sloppy wet eros kind of kiss anyway? No, this is like a grandparent kissing all over your cheeks when they see you after a long absence. It implies unabashed, uninhibited affection like you would give a child. People will even say when talking to family, "Give so and so a sloppy wet kiss from me." So, maybe its a cultural thing.

]]> By: Elias http://www.ourrisingsound.com/2009/09/14/john-mark-mcmillan-discusses-david-crowder-and-sloppy-wet-kiss/comment-page-1/#comment-50946 Elias Tue, 19 Apr 2011 21:41:32 +0000 http://www.ourrisingsound.com/?p=1473#comment-50946 The correct answer is "The people that have issues with it typically take it out of context". People WILL take it "out of context" and be offended by it, and that alone justifies changing the lyrics. In musical worship, we simply do not have the luxury of going over vernacular nuances, especially unbiblical ones. Leave ambiguity to humanistic poetry. Worship songwriters serve a higher purpose than artistic expression. The correct answer is "The people that have issues with it typically take it out of context".

People WILL take it "out of context" and be offended by it, and that alone justifies changing the lyrics. In musical worship, we simply do not have the luxury of going over vernacular nuances, especially unbiblical ones. Leave ambiguity to humanistic poetry. Worship songwriters serve a higher purpose than artistic expression.

]]> By: TJT http://www.ourrisingsound.com/2009/09/14/john-mark-mcmillan-discusses-david-crowder-and-sloppy-wet-kiss/comment-page-1/#comment-44775 TJT Tue, 22 Mar 2011 20:16:10 +0000 http://www.ourrisingsound.com/?p=1473#comment-44775 Wow.. As a father of 4, all I can think about when I hear the "Sloppy wet kiss" is a loving Father kissing an infant child. Have you ever asked a toddler to give you a kiss? There is no kiss more sloppy, or more loving. Wow.. As a father of 4, all I can think about when I hear the "Sloppy wet kiss" is a loving Father kissing an infant child. Have you ever asked a toddler to give you a kiss? There is no kiss more sloppy, or more loving.

]]> By: Adam http://www.ourrisingsound.com/2009/09/14/john-mark-mcmillan-discusses-david-crowder-and-sloppy-wet-kiss/comment-page-1/#comment-40750 Adam Thu, 03 Mar 2011 16:05:11 +0000 http://www.ourrisingsound.com/?p=1473#comment-40750 Dianna, as a father of two boys I will never give them a sloppy wet kiss. I have too much reverence for my father to give him a sloppy wet kiss or to meet with him like a sloppy wet kiss (even an unforseen kiss which, come on, is a bit creepy). Nothing with the Father is awkward or should be awkward. We should have Godly fear and reverence for the King of kings than approach Him like this. Also, we need to sing more songs that speak about Him and glorify Him and remove ourselves from the equation. Dianna, as a father of two boys I will never give them a sloppy wet kiss. I have too much reverence for my father to give him a sloppy wet kiss or to meet with him like a sloppy wet kiss (even an unforseen kiss which, come on, is a bit creepy). Nothing with the Father is awkward or should be awkward. We should have Godly fear and reverence for the King of kings than approach Him like this. Also, we need to sing more songs that speak about Him and glorify Him and remove ourselves from the equation.

]]> By: Megan Click http://www.ourrisingsound.com/2009/09/14/john-mark-mcmillan-discusses-david-crowder-and-sloppy-wet-kiss/comment-page-1/#comment-38808 Megan Click Tue, 22 Feb 2011 23:03:05 +0000 http://www.ourrisingsound.com/?p=1473#comment-38808 For all of those offended by a sloppy wet kiss, what are we to do with all of the marriage imagery in Scripture? God apparently was not offended by the marriage metaphor in the Prophetic writings nor in Revelation. Although I appreciate many of the things that the Reformed movement has brought to the ongoing dialogue, I sometimes feel like their insistence on the 'otherness' of God comes at the expense of intimacy. It isn't an either or situation. It is both. God is both transcendent and immanent. For all of those offended by a sloppy wet kiss, what are we to do with all of the marriage imagery in Scripture? God apparently was not offended by the marriage metaphor in the Prophetic writings nor in Revelation. Although I appreciate many of the things that the Reformed movement has brought to the ongoing dialogue, I sometimes feel like their insistence on the 'otherness' of God comes at the expense of intimacy. It isn't an either or situation. It is both. God is both transcendent and immanent.

]]> By: Mathew http://www.ourrisingsound.com/2009/09/14/john-mark-mcmillan-discusses-david-crowder-and-sloppy-wet-kiss/comment-page-1/#comment-38594 Mathew Tue, 22 Feb 2011 02:51:48 +0000 http://www.ourrisingsound.com/?p=1473#comment-38594 It makes me sad to see the church go after a person's expression of their love to God. I understand there is basic theology and Biblical principles that we all need to adhere to, but this issue more so reflects how we view the Bible. We pick and choose what the like and don't like and fill in those areas with what makes us more comfortable. Who among any of us can truly say we know for a fact that God would want 3 words thrown out of this song? Any that believe they do are no better than the Pharisees that Jesus spoke against throughout His time on earth. The Christian church has become too consumed with what makes us feel good inside and makes us comfrotable rather than being concerned with what God has called us to do on this earth. We would rather quarrell about 3 words instead of worrying about those around us who are hurting and need Jesus. It makes me sad to see the church go after a person's expression of their love to God. I understand there is basic theology and Biblical principles that we all need to adhere to, but this issue more so reflects how we view the Bible. We pick and choose what the like and don't like and fill in those areas with what makes us more comfortable. Who among any of us can truly say we know for a fact that God would want 3 words thrown out of this song? Any that believe they do are no better than the Pharisees that Jesus spoke against throughout His time on earth.
The Christian church has become too consumed with what makes us feel good inside and makes us comfrotable rather than being concerned with what God has called us to do on this earth. We would rather quarrell about 3 words instead of worrying about those around us who are hurting and need Jesus.

]]> By: Shawna http://www.ourrisingsound.com/2009/09/14/john-mark-mcmillan-discusses-david-crowder-and-sloppy-wet-kiss/comment-page-1/#comment-36957 Shawna Mon, 14 Feb 2011 19:33:58 +0000 http://www.ourrisingsound.com/?p=1473#comment-36957 Having the lyrics "sloppy wet kiss" in a worship song meant to glorify God is so inappropriate on many levels. My church introduced this song last week and I blushed. Then I pictured a sloppy wet kiss in my mind (and I can't be the only one) I just couldn't get the image out; I had to quit singing which is definitely a first for me. A sloppy wet kiss has NO PLACE in a song meant to glorify our heavenly Father. A sloppy, wet, kiss should be for your spouse and your spouse alone! If they play that song at church again, I intend to sit down and read my Bible, and I sit in the first few rows. Having the lyrics "sloppy wet kiss" in a worship song meant to glorify God is so inappropriate on many levels. My church introduced this song last week and I blushed. Then I pictured a sloppy wet kiss in my mind (and I can't be the only one) I just couldn't get the image out; I had to quit singing which is definitely a first for me. A sloppy wet kiss has NO PLACE in a song meant to glorify our heavenly Father. A sloppy, wet, kiss should be for your spouse and your spouse alone! If they play that song at church again, I intend to sit down and read my Bible, and I sit in the first few rows.

]]> By: Aaron Hill http://www.ourrisingsound.com/2009/09/14/john-mark-mcmillan-discusses-david-crowder-and-sloppy-wet-kiss/comment-page-1/#comment-34297 Aaron Hill Wed, 02 Feb 2011 18:50:39 +0000 http://www.ourrisingsound.com/?p=1473#comment-34297 If you think this lyris has anything to do with kissing or eros then i think you are missing the point. Dig deeper. The metaphor illustrates the how the mating of humanity with the Kingdom of God is an imperfect union with the flesh making it a bit of a mess. Other metaphors could have been used for sure but would they have created such a stir? This is a stirring of the Spirit in my opinion. The debate could head toward what worship music should be in the context of "Sunday morning" but I really don't think the song was written neccesarily for Sunday morning usage although it's clear that some have taken it to the congreagation. Battle this out, people. Wrestle with God over this. Ask Him "is it ok?" The less we resign ourselve to accept first impressions the more we gain the ability to see beyond our own flesh. If you think this lyris has anything to do with kissing or eros then i think you are missing the point. Dig deeper. The metaphor illustrates the how the mating of humanity with the Kingdom of God is an imperfect union with the flesh making it a bit of a mess. Other metaphors could have been used for sure but would they have created such a stir? This is a stirring of the Spirit in my opinion. The debate could head toward what worship music should be in the context of "Sunday morning" but I really don't think the song was written neccesarily for Sunday morning usage although it's clear that some have taken it to the congreagation. Battle this out, people. Wrestle with God over this. Ask Him "is it ok?" The less we resign ourselve to accept first impressions the more we gain the ability to see beyond our own flesh.

]]> By: James http://www.ourrisingsound.com/2009/09/14/john-mark-mcmillan-discusses-david-crowder-and-sloppy-wet-kiss/comment-page-1/#comment-33544 James Sat, 29 Jan 2011 21:34:06 +0000 http://www.ourrisingsound.com/?p=1473#comment-33544 While I don't like this song, it is not for the sloppy wet kiss lyric. I have had sloppy wet kisses from my family that have nothing to do with Eros love. Ever had Aunt Martha give you a sloppy wet kiss? Was that kiss an Eros kiss? I actually don't have a problem with God loving us that way, either. Paul describes a marriage as being like Jesus and the church. If we are not to experience Eros love with God, then why did He create it? It's only our sinful nature and original sin that perverts Eros love into something that is not experienced with God. You can also look at Song of Solomon as well. The problem I have with the song (and the trendy phrase) is the idea of furious love. I still haven't figured out if God's love is furious, like a hurricane. While I don't like this song, it is not for the sloppy wet kiss lyric. I have had sloppy wet kisses from my family that have nothing to do with Eros love. Ever had Aunt Martha give you a sloppy wet kiss? Was that kiss an Eros kiss? I actually don't have a problem with God loving us that way, either. Paul describes a marriage as being like Jesus and the church. If we are not to experience Eros love with God, then why did He create it? It's only our sinful nature and original sin that perverts Eros love into something that is not experienced with God. You can also look at Song of Solomon as well. The problem I have with the song (and the trendy phrase) is the idea of furious love. I still haven't figured out if God's love is furious, like a hurricane.

]]> By: Beth http://www.ourrisingsound.com/2009/09/14/john-mark-mcmillan-discusses-david-crowder-and-sloppy-wet-kiss/comment-page-1/#comment-31667 Beth Thu, 20 Jan 2011 20:46:07 +0000 http://www.ourrisingsound.com/?p=1473#comment-31667 How would you feel if your earthly father/daddy gave you a sloppy wet kiss? Kind of gross, huh? God is our Heavenly Father. The whole idea of a "sloppy wet kiss" comes from eros, which is an errotic love. God does not love us that way. You'd better re-think your theology on this lyric. If it has created this much controversy. . . there is nothing Godly about it. How would you feel if your earthly father/daddy gave you a sloppy wet kiss? Kind of gross, huh? God is our Heavenly Father. The whole idea of a "sloppy wet kiss" comes from eros, which is an errotic love. God does not love us that way. You'd better re-think your theology on this lyric. If it has created this much controversy. . . there is nothing Godly about it.

]]> By: Elisabeth U http://www.ourrisingsound.com/2009/09/14/john-mark-mcmillan-discusses-david-crowder-and-sloppy-wet-kiss/comment-page-1/#comment-31484 Elisabeth U Thu, 20 Jan 2011 05:48:37 +0000 http://www.ourrisingsound.com/?p=1473#comment-31484 What kind of music do you listen to? Does it glorify God? What kind of music do you listen to? Does it glorify God?

]]> By: Elisabeth U http://www.ourrisingsound.com/2009/09/14/john-mark-mcmillan-discusses-david-crowder-and-sloppy-wet-kiss/comment-page-1/#comment-31481 Elisabeth U Thu, 20 Jan 2011 05:44:38 +0000 http://www.ourrisingsound.com/?p=1473#comment-31481 I must admit that I thought the 'sloppy wet kiss' thing was gross, but now hearing his explanation I see it differently. It is true, Jesus' birth and death were messy. Wow, now I want to sing it that way again! :) I must admit that I thought the 'sloppy wet kiss' thing was gross, but now hearing his explanation I see it differently. It is true, Jesus' birth and death were messy. Wow, now I want to sing it that way again! :)

]]> By: David S. http://www.ourrisingsound.com/2009/09/14/john-mark-mcmillan-discusses-david-crowder-and-sloppy-wet-kiss/comment-page-1/#comment-28788 David S. Thu, 06 Jan 2011 10:07:38 +0000 http://www.ourrisingsound.com/?p=1473#comment-28788 Funny how you furrow your brow over the hurricane line, but no one batted an eye when Rich Mullins equated it to "the wrecklass raging fury, they call the love of God." Funny how you furrow your brow over the hurricane line, but no one batted an eye when Rich Mullins equated it to “the wrecklass raging fury, they call the love of God.”

]]> By: Leslie http://www.ourrisingsound.com/2009/09/14/john-mark-mcmillan-discusses-david-crowder-and-sloppy-wet-kiss/comment-page-1/#comment-28143 Leslie Fri, 31 Dec 2010 17:54:08 +0000 http://www.ourrisingsound.com/?p=1473#comment-28143 i've met John Mark, he goes to my main church in SC that im going to bible college in the fall. He was seeing Jesus as his 'groom'. Jesus is our groom and we are the bride. So the 'sloppy wet kiss' was what he was seeing. I think its great! I cant wait to have Jesus kiss me. i've met John Mark, he goes to my main church in SC that im going to bible college in the fall. He was seeing Jesus as his 'groom'. Jesus is our groom and we are the bride. So the 'sloppy wet kiss' was what he was seeing. I think its great! I cant wait to have Jesus kiss me.

]]> By: Jen B http://www.ourrisingsound.com/2009/09/14/john-mark-mcmillan-discusses-david-crowder-and-sloppy-wet-kiss/comment-page-1/#comment-25353 Jen B Mon, 25 Oct 2010 00:52:45 +0000 http://www.ourrisingsound.com/?p=1473#comment-25353 We sang this for the 1st time in church today. Never even crossed my mind that it would be controversal. We are experiancing one of our best friends being diognosed with cancer and his wife just had cancer. It all feels like a sloppy mess, but we know the truth- God loves us, and his glory shines thought it all. I agree with Daniel, the bible is filled with things that may make us feel somewhat uncofortable to read, yet there are beautiful truths. Does that mean we just don't teach that particular scripture in church? I just find it exreamly strange that a believer would hava a problem with this. We sang this for the 1st time in church today. Never even crossed my mind that it would be controversal. We are experiancing one of our best friends being diognosed with cancer and his wife just had cancer. It all feels like a sloppy mess, but we know the truth- God loves us, and his glory shines thought it all. I agree with Daniel, the bible is filled with things that may make us feel somewhat uncofortable to read, yet there are beautiful truths. Does that mean we just don't teach that particular scripture in church? I just find it exreamly strange that a believer would hava a problem with this.

]]> By: Kay http://www.ourrisingsound.com/2009/09/14/john-mark-mcmillan-discusses-david-crowder-and-sloppy-wet-kiss/comment-page-1/#comment-24057 Kay Sat, 28 Aug 2010 16:05:32 +0000 http://www.ourrisingsound.com/?p=1473#comment-24057 Well said Jonny! I totally agree! I am a 50 year old grandmom, that happens to love this type of music and just recently, came across this wonderful song! It made me cry 'tears of joy and saddness' when i first heard it! I love it...'sloppy wet kiss'.... and all ! And, agree with you, that in some cases...this line, may at times, be misunderstood! Never the less, I feel it is a very annointed song, & I'm thankful, to have heard it! ...and continue hearing it... as it's been in my head for days, along with the presence of God healing my heart, of old pain and regrets...and gently reminding me of ... How He Loves! Well said Jonny! I totally agree!
I am a 50 year old grandmom, that happens to love this type of music and just recently, came across this wonderful song! It made me cry 'tears of joy and saddness' when i first heard it! I love it…'sloppy wet kiss'…. and all !
And, agree with you, that in some cases…this line, may at times, be misunderstood!
Never the less, I feel it is a very annointed song, & I'm thankful, to have heard it! …and continue hearing it… as it's been in my head for days, along with the presence of God healing my heart, of old pain and regrets…and gently reminding me of … How He Loves!

]]> By: worshipbanners http://www.ourrisingsound.com/2009/09/14/john-mark-mcmillan-discusses-david-crowder-and-sloppy-wet-kiss/comment-page-1/#comment-23411 worshipbanners Mon, 02 Aug 2010 16:45:38 +0000 http://www.ourrisingsound.com/?p=1473#comment-23411 My church turned it into a beautiful kiss... ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Why is there so much religion in church?! My church turned it into a beautiful kiss… ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Why is there so much religion in church?!

]]> By: Philip http://www.ourrisingsound.com/2009/09/14/john-mark-mcmillan-discusses-david-crowder-and-sloppy-wet-kiss/comment-page-1/#comment-23267 Philip Sun, 25 Jul 2010 02:27:21 +0000 http://www.ourrisingsound.com/?p=1473#comment-23267 Just heard this song for the first time tonight and read all the comments. I really like the song and the lyrics definitely express a heart after God. The video clip shows how much the people are drawn to worship. That should be an inspiration to anyone in love with Jesus. Just heard this song for the first time tonight and read all the comments. I really like the song and the lyrics definitely express a heart after God. The video clip shows how much the people are drawn to worship. That should be an inspiration to anyone in love with Jesus.

]]> By: Scott http://www.ourrisingsound.com/2009/09/14/john-mark-mcmillan-discusses-david-crowder-and-sloppy-wet-kiss/comment-page-1/#comment-23266 Scott Sun, 25 Jul 2010 02:12:22 +0000 http://www.ourrisingsound.com/?p=1473#comment-23266 I wonder if any of you who do not like the lyrics "sloppy wet kiss" (which I personally would not have used) have ever written any better songs with better lyrics that have brought thousands of young people to a deeper worship? Do we know for a fact that these lyrics have actually done harm to the cause of Christ? Most likely not. So what's the problem? It would be revealing indeed if the Father Himself could post His own comment!! I realize that everyone is entitled to his/her opinion so here's mine... There seems to be an uncomfortable number of spectator Christians (who have never gotten off their "spiritual couch") telling the players on the field how to play the game. True? Just something to think about. I wonder if any of you who do not like the lyrics "sloppy wet kiss" (which I personally would not have used) have ever written any better songs with better lyrics that have brought thousands of young people to a deeper worship? Do we know for a fact that these lyrics have actually done harm to the cause of Christ? Most likely not. So what's the problem? It would be revealing indeed if the Father Himself could post His own comment!! I realize that everyone is entitled to his/her opinion so here's mine… There seems to be an uncomfortable number of spectator Christians (who have never gotten off their "spiritual couch") telling the players on the field how to play the game. True? Just something to think about.

]]> By: Kyle Campos http://www.ourrisingsound.com/2009/09/14/john-mark-mcmillan-discusses-david-crowder-and-sloppy-wet-kiss/comment-page-1/#comment-23253 Kyle Campos Fri, 23 Jul 2010 17:31:04 +0000 http://www.ourrisingsound.com/?p=1473#comment-23253 Great points Kelly, thanks for chiming in. Great points Kelly, thanks for chiming in.

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