Micah D. sent in this question on the “How to introduce click tracks to your band” post.
How do I put the click track through monitors [and] the loop … through the main speakers?
Good question. The goal is to get the loop playing through the mains and available to monitor mixes but the click only in monitors and not through the mains. Getting the loop to play through the mains is just like getting any signal to the mains so I’ll assume that part needs no explanation and focus on getting a click isolated in monitor mixes and not mains. There are a couple ways to do this, I’ll start with the best and most flexible way that I know of.
- Route the click signal to the board on an isolated channel. How exactly you do this depends on what is generating your click. In my case I take the left channel from my audio interface which carries the click signal generated by Ableton Live. The right channel carries the loop signal. Ableton makes it easy to split your click signal. In my upcoming posts on how to create your own click tracks I’ll show how to go about doing this.
- Take the click channel’s fader all the way down. This of course turns it off in the main house mix.
- Use your pre-fade aux sends on the board to control monitor levels. In order for your monitors to pickup the click with the fader all the way down these sends must be on a pre-fade send. That basically means that the fader doesn’t come into play at all in the aux send level. Post-fade takes into account where the fader is at.
Wikipedia does a better job at explaining pre/post fade aux sends:
The Auxiliary send routes a split of the incoming signal to an auxiliary bus which can then be used with external devices. Auxiliary sends can either be pre-fader or post-fader, in that the level of a pre-fade send is set by the Auxiliary send control, whereas post-fade sends depend on the position of the channel fader as well. Auxiliary sends can be used to send the signal to an external processor such as a reverb, which can then be routed back through another channel or designated auxiliary returns on the mixer. These will normally be post-fader. Pre-fade auxiliary sends can be used to provide a monitor mix to musicians onstage, this mix is thus independent of the main mix.
What to watch out for?
You want to listen for channel bleed through where your click is still audible in the house even though the fader is all the way down. We recently had this issue and the cause, besides the board being to blame, is how hot a signal was being sent to the board. The click channel was clipping, so we fixed our gain structure and brought it down a lot and that helped our bleed.
Other options: In ear monitor pack Mix-In
Another way of doing this is using the Mix-In input on your in ear monitor packs. Most in ear monitoring packs have a 1/4″ in. input for mixing in some auxillary signal. You could use a multi-channel headphone amp to carry the click signal and then take the 1/4″ in. outs on each channel to all your monitor packs.
This isn’t a great way of doing this if not for complexity sake then for the cabling mess, but maybe if you had limited aux sends on your board this could come in handy.
I hope that helps.







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You should change the name of this blog to Our Rising Loop. If you preach the gospel anywhere as fervently as you pimp loops you should have a disciples all over the place!
All my disciples love 3 things, 1. Jesus 2. This blog 3. Macs
Hmmm…I’ve sneaked in with a PC…and without in-ears!
We have Avioms, but can’t afford in-ears yet, so when we run a click, we just put it on a separate Aviom channel. Everyone can mix it how they like it…and we use a sound that fits in with the loop people hear in the house, so if someone does hear it from the wedges or hotspots, it’s not too bad.
What is the best way to run tracks during a live concert? We have recorded piano and filler tracks that we want to be able to run during our live shows, because we dont have a keyboard player and we don’t like there to be any dead time in between songs? We have a Mac and that’s what we’ve been using to record our tracks. We’re very please withthe quality we’ve gotten out of it we’re just not sure of the best way to use them now? Have any suggestions?
Abelton Live is the industry standard for playing backing tracks and loops live. That's what I use and would suggest as well. I have quite a few articles on the site about it but I'd start here:
http://www.ourrisingsound.com/2009/05/08/a-beginn...