In the spirit of this political debate season we bring you the first annual Church Sign Debate. We have 5 questions we’ll be asking the Presbyterian and Catholic church, let’s get started. If you want to keep up on other news like this, subscribe to the RSS feed.
1. Do dogs goto heaven?
2. Does God love dogs?
3. Do Catholic dogs have the inside track to heaven?
4. Good point, do dogs have souls?
5. No rocks in heaven? What will we walk on?
Phew…I’m glad we got that all settled.
[via James]
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Are you serious? This is for real? Wow. Talk about not having a clue about what the church is. This is yet another reason why I believe that churches shouldn’t be allowed to have marquee signs
That’s Hilarious. (Ryan, the answer is NO, it is NOT real).
+23 points for clever usage of church sign generators.
This is awesome!!! That is the best use of a church sign I’ve ever seen. I wish this would happen in real life. I would ride by 10 times a day to see the next response. Nice job.
Ryan: I don’t know but probably not.
Emery: I know I love the debate by proxy, the sign begins to take a life of it’s own.
lol this is just strange on so many levels.
LOL this is awesome!
too bad it’s fake haha love those church sign generators.
The pictures are faked. Notice the background - leaves, grass, cars. Nothing changes - not even the angle of the camera. Since they are faked, I feel like the jokes could have been a bit funnier. However, I certainly did laugh.
This is amazing. Are these churches across from one another or what?
Hi - I loved the joke and sent it on to the clergy in my Church
I love this. It is funny as can be. You showed initiative in your humor.
YAAAAY CATHOLICS
Haha you know, if I *HAD* to choose a side. Based solely on this. Heaven wouldn’t be heaven without dogs. What to Presbyterians know?
Hey, this can’t be real… and besides, the cars never change in the background of the Catholic sign (unless these signs were all changed over the space of a few minutes.)
BTW - no dogs in heaven. I’ve heard enough of their barking here on earth…
Didn’t think it was real, because if those two churches were that petty I’d hate to think of how their members acted outside of church. Funny nonetheless.
Anything capable of love and hate has a soul.
Fake, but funny.
BATTLE ROYALE!!!
Of course it’s fake. . .its a joke. . .clever too! I cannot believe that anyone actually looks at this and thinks it was real. . .I thought people were smarter than dogs. . .its a good thing it’s whats in your heart and not in your head that gets you to heaven. . .
Genious!
A wonderful outside view of how pointless the arguments can get between denominations. One day they might all get the fact that we are all partakers of the same bread.
BX
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If you notice the vertical lines on Beulah’s sign, they’re the dividers between the spaces into which you insert the letters, I’m pretty sure. And the letters don’t line up with them.
Check designs #1 and #11 at:
http://www.churchsigngenerator.com/
But it IS hilarious.
FAKE!
Dugg for its imitation of ‘real’ theological debates–meaningless and pointless, but people have to have them anyway!
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OMFG. I just snorted water out my nose! Real, or not, it’s still hilarious.
jenny - does the F stand for “Faithful”?
Dogs don’t have souls, I go to a Catholic high school, however if you need your dog to be happy then your dog is in heaven. Anywho this is freaking hilarious.
Seems to me like there’s a bit of rivalry going on between these churches…
Funny stuff!
its obvious these are photoshopped. but it makes a funny point because this is really similar to how these two sects think.
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Yeah, but do the dogs go there of their own free will, or were they predestined for heaven? There’s the rub.
This is a hoot. Thanks!
They are both wrong - Only good dogs go to heaven - pit bulls burn in hell !!
This is fake, guys. Take a closer look at the lining up of the letters. Sorry.
Very fake, very funny. BTW, Catholics don’t believe that animals have souls, or that they go to heaven.
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when i clicked on this link from my blog, a petco banner came up with a cute picture of a dog. hope he’s catholic, unless he’s been a bad dog.
check it out, the generator used: http://www.churchsigngenerator.com
Very funny though.
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I think the fact that some commenters think this is real is even funnier than the images themselves ^_^
Folks, this is a fake. Beulah Cumberland Presbyterian Church is in Hartford, KY and I just talked to a member there. Their church is white and has no such sign. There is no Our Lady of the Martyrs Catholic Church near there. As for the supposed “theological debate”, it’s nonsense. Neither denomination would waste their time debating this. This matters to me because I am a Cumberland Presbyterian pastor and the impression this gives feeds the anti-church sentiment many people (rightfully) have. Good for a laugh, but completely fake.
Nitynite: Yes it’s fake, it was created using churchsigngenerator.com , which has been commented several times. This is just for a laugh, nothing else.
Thanks for sharing this. Very funny.
And my response for my marquee would be…
“Jesus is the Rock of Salvation. There is no need for other rocks in Heaven.”
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Let’s put a stop to he debate…..it’s simple
dog spelled backwards is GOD ……. so there they do go to heaven
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Can catholic dogs get spayed?
The Catholic vs presbyterian thread was most likely photo shopped. The same 2 cars are in the same spot in the parking lot behind. Also check out the shadows. Even if this was done all in the same day, the shadows would vary and they don’t.
This is too funny. I just preached on “Do Dogs Go to Heaven?” yesterday. Then I blessed the animals. If you’re interested, you can go on the following website and hear the sermon and see some of the pictures taken.
http://www.hwy246.net/users/bethania/
Give my secretary a few days to get them posted. Thanks
Being catholic I must say you have the signs wrong, but if Presbyterian’s believe what their signs say then we are closer then we think.
Someone thought this was cute, but what they put on the Catholic Sign is not Church teaching, it never was and never will be. Dogs have no souls. We have enough things happening everyday that are funny and true, use them to enlighten and brighten people day. To check my facts go to catholicanswers.com and see for yourself, or ask any questions you like.
B
Bernadette…If you believe that, I feel sorry for you and you fellow Catholics. I know there will be dogs in Heaven for those who want them to be there. Otherwise, how could we call it Heaven?
Pictures of Beulah Cumberland Presbyterian Church:
http://www.sheltom.com/denominations/PRBEULAH.HTML
http://www.flickr.com/photos/swelldesigner/443092497/
Only one church by that name found. No brick walls in these pictures.
Perhaps “There’s no such thing as bad publicity” will work out well for the folks at Beulah Cumberland Presbyterian Church.
I love this! I wish the Presbies had a bit more fun or spunk, but they’ll figure it out when we all get there. Oh, and even though I’m not a Catholic - I do believe all dogs go to Heaven…no one will convince me otherwise. Why should anyone think humans are more worthy of God’s love? The Bible tells us we will ride on horses in battle with Christ - dogs are there!
I am confident dogs go to heaven-D-O-G —- G-O-D
It’s not brain science!!!
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Just so everybody knows, this was a joke. These churches didn’t participate. And on top of that, the photograph is too easily shown to be poorly manipulated. This person did a bad job. The weather, cars, trees, perspective, and the terrible use of fonts artifacting on the signs are easily the same and noticeable.
Besides, even though dogs do not have souls, both churches would not argue over such lame issues. Only those who have emotional/social ties to animals are concerned about this issue, and will get offended if someone says their dog doesn’t go to heaven. I’ve had dogs all my life. I understand if they aren’t in Heaven, but I’m not sad about it. Dogs are good either way.
Some of u people r IDIOTS, Dogs know LOVE more then a lot of people, their LOVE is unconditional & forever!! U DOPES who thinks Dogs don’t have Souls they have a better Soul then any of u, a Dog will only bite his enemy (unlike people), all Dogs do go to Heaven, where all humans don’t. God knows who’ll be Faithful (GOD-DOG). It doesn’t matter if these signs r a joke or not, the true meaning is that a Dog’s Love is not, they r going to Heaven & they’ll meet us there with wagging tail, kisses & lots & lots of Love!!! I feel sorry for u people who do not know true Love, u need a Dog to show u!! And for Pitt Bulls they will also be in Heaven, it’s the owners who will not. For all u Mike Vicks - Burn In Hell!!!!
Almost as much as the joke, I love the responses that so earnestly/school-marmishly/etc. (and with laborious “proof”) flag this as fake - e.g. “Just so everybody knows, this was a joke….This person did a bad job.” You mean the online sign generator that’s meant purely for fun? Yeesh. That said, I also love the earnest comments that of course dogs (G-O-D spelled backwards) go to heaven. I agree. Just for one, a lot of them are more deserving of heaven than certain humans.
Oh, I feel silly… until I hit this page I thought they were real! But only because I have known real churches and real church people to seriously engage in debates just as silly. It never occurred to me that they might be faked.
Me? I hope to see of my dogs are in heaven. I still miss them here!
Uh, could some of you people lighten up? This was a funny joke, not an excuse for bible thumpers of any denomination to preach to the rest of us about dogs having souls vs. not having souls. I’m a Catholic and I’m not even sure if I have a soul! I know a lot of nasty people that I will swear don’t. (I’m sorry…I am swearing…is that OK?)
Oh people lighten up, this is a hoot and too bad it isn’t really dualing signs between the churches. I’d go back to being catholic if I could go to Our Lady of Martyrs.
I stepped away from all forms religion and its narrow view on life and it’s stupifying beliefs.
If there’s a god, I can’t imagine him lacking a sense of humor, he allegedly created man didn’t he?
Genesis 1:28- Then God blessed them, and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth.”
(God places man above other living creatures.)
Genesis 1:29- And God said, “See, I have given you every herb that yields seed which is on the face of all the earth, and every tree whose fruit yields seed; to you it shall be for food.”
(Man is given plants to eat.)
Genesis 9:3- Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you. I have given you all things, even as the green herbs.
(At this point, God has established man’s dominion over other living creatures (Gen 1:28). He has established vegetation to be food for man (Gen 1:29). In Genesis 9:3, God gives man animals to eat “even as the green herbs.” So, according to God’s Word, animals are equal to plants. Humans are placed above them.)
Do all plants go to Heaven?
Yes yes yes YESSSS! Dogs and everything else that can feel pain love and hate do have souls. And you are ignorant and childish to think otherwise! How are you people to decide what has souls or not? I think you should check your own soul before you start saying what your ignorance seems as right. funny signs but i bet you just pissed that church off!
cath guy you are wrong, for generations upon generations the catholics and episcopalians have celebrated All Hallows Eve (on halloween) The blessing of the animals, people bring everything from hamsters, dogs and cats, lizards and donkeys and horses. Its a wonderful and bizarre celebration with all these people bringing their animals lined up thru the church and the father blesses them one by one so their souls will go to heaven. I’m episcopalian, which is direct line from catholics, and I went to catholic school, and had everyone of my animals blessed even my horse, majiik. Alot of catholics and episcopalians don’t celebrate it, most probably because they are either ignorant of it or just don’t care to do for the trouble of it. But it is in the Catholic prayer book for priests.
Mike B………just because we have domain over animals, does not mean they don’t go to heaven. If you’ve ever really known an animal, obviously you never had, you would know, that they do have souls, they do think, they do feel, you just treat them like you think they are, something you have powet over. That kinda makes you a control freak, one that will never really love, only have domain over another.
Okay you people have got to get a grip on reality the comment “dogs are animals” what idiot forgot that humans are 1 of millions of types of animals. Now I know religious folk in Christianity don’t like to admit that we are animals just like the dog at our feet but guess what we are just as much an animal as fido and spot. Let’s take a brief trip through humanity shall we, if we were to look at early man prior to modern man so lets say7,000 to 10,000 years ago when we were hunter gatherer cave men and women you know “unga bung,” inventers of the wheel, Geico’s so easy a cave man can do it…if we were to observe early man from even the encino period we would call him an animal based off of appearance, smell, and it’s interaction with the world surrounding it. All we have done is refined our hygeine (most of us) and increased what little knowledge we have oh and created marvelous flights of fantasy to help us sleep at night. Ask yourselves this other than some cruel inhumane intent why would your God create dog’s and cat’s for our time on earth but not in the after life, I am yet to meet anyone who can tell me with the utmost honesty and intellect to know what a soul is and if they themselves have one. The act of saying I have a soul because I’m human is not enough to prove that you have one and dog don’t and don’t anyone dare say it’s because we can communicate or we can think or problem solve. Remember your dog whining to go outside or barking at the door because someones there that’s him talking to, ever leave cat food out of reach on accident on a counter top, now there’s a problem because you most likely feed your cat on the floor well little kitty kitty isn’t going to wait for your to resolve the issue cat’s going to solve the problem jump on the counter and feast. All living things both plant and animal communicate and all creatures great and small have intelligence, let’s just think factually for a moment we know we are not the first to climb to the top off the animal kingdom the animal you claim to be soulless once ruled this world and we as humans were the more pathetic dumber but still intelligent life on earth. Let us not assume that we are kings and queens over all life on earth but rather be humbled at the fact that out of the great creatures of our past from dinosaur to mega-mammels that we are the current predominant top of the food chain, so long as we stay in our habitat, out in the wild we give up that throne. Please don’t mistake me as a non believer trust me I know the lord god though christianity is no longer my faith nor did i become catholic so my dogs can go to heaven. Enlighten and think for yourselves, your faith is determined by what you personally believe not everything the preacher says is law or full truth that’s why the bible has been re-written by man to fit personalized views like the the King James bible and why there is one Christian God but hundreds of Christian faiths, the christian weakness is the division in denomination.
If you want to get Biblical, and I gues that’s what its all about, turn in you Bibles to Ecclesiastes something….the part about “there is a time for every purpose under heaven, a time to be born, a time to die” right after that passage it pretty clearly claims that for man to think himself over the animals is vanity for the breath of God that gives one life gives all life and whether the souls of man ascends into heaven and the souls of animals (including dogs) descends intothe earth is not known. It says clearly animals have souls, just not clearly where they go when they die. sort of the same with us.
Hell, for that matter I’ve run across a few people in my life that made me wonder if they had souls and a whole bunch of dogs I just knew had souls.
Kathy…It’s interesting that you call me a power hungry control freak that will never really love, who also, by the way, has never really known an animal. I wasn’t aware we had met.
I could deduce a lot of things about you from your three sentences, but I don’t know anything about you, so I won’t do it.
You guys got spoofed. This was an add from a signage company showing off their wares!!! Don’t believe everything you read!!!
Hee, hee, hee, it’ s so silly it’s funny, it’s not believeable because, if it was really a battle joined, at least the catholics would be using tautologicals in their arguments, I don’t know, but assume that Presbyterians would have similar and effective linguistic defenses. None of which is seen here.
What is seen here, however, is the tell tale fact, that the shadows in the pictures never vary in strength or position. As with anything in real life, this proves little, but consider the two possibilities that could have accounted for this effect:
1. Someone copied these pictures several times and simply added new lettering to each one, then posted the collection!
—OR—
2, Each church had someone go outside each day with the proper letters for the answering sign and changed them. Then the photographer waited for the exact same shadow pattern = Time of day, and the exact same strength of sunlight = cloudlessness.
If either of these conditions failed coincide, the photographer had to wait to try to take the picture on another day. Nor could the answering church change their sign, until the photograph was snapped. Since this would logically only happen over a number of days, very strict cooperation between, at least, the two churches and the photographer, if not between the churches themselves, to achieve this final result.
I think we can apply Occams Razor here, and cut out!
This made me happy. (The Presbyterians have something sour up their wazoo.)
WE KNOW its a freaking joke!, stop pointing it out! its the debate that has us going, not the actuality of the sign, its authinticity or not. We are debating a topic pure and simple, so please stop pointing out that we are funny because its a joke, its the simplicity of point counter point that has found ground here.
btw, All Hallows Eve, is called All Saints Day, the blessing of the animals is thru/for st. francis, saint of all animals, look it up in your epistle.
Hey, Josh the Realist - for chrissake boy, take a deep breath and lighten up (or enlighten up) before you have a stroke or a shit hemmorage! OK, still funny even though it’s not real but will some kind young person tell me, a member of the Old Fart generation, what is a “SIGN GENERATOR” and what is it typically used for, other than great jokes? Thanks. Take another breath, JOsh - that’s it - good boy.
http://www.churchsigngenerator.com/sign01.php
Kathy - for the record - All Hallow’s Eve - aka Hallowe’en - is not the same thing as All Saints’ Day - which falls on Nov 1st. Also - if you subscribe to St. Francis for the blessing of the animals - that’s October 4th not Hallowe’en either. If you follow St. Anthony’s tradition it happens in January.
At any rate - call it waht you will - but please not “debate.” Whe we have comments like Kathleen’s about “Presbyterians having something sour up their wazoos” that fits your “simple” word - but debate it isn’t.
Unfortunately - many people fell for the “sign” and comments like that do nothing to foster good will in our world. So please get off your intellectual high-horse and just admit it - you don’t have a proverbial hot clue what you’re going on about - you just like to see your name in print.
P.S. I’m not Presbyterian
Wow, think what you want, but don’t call it biblical or scientific. God’s creation is good; we should enjoy it and look forward to what He has planned for us in heaven.